Man...I don't even know what to say there. There's a little part of me that doesn't even know what to say to that.

And the rest of me pretty much agrees with Shawn. Personally I think you guys'd make great parents, but you don't WANT to, and you know what? That's cool too.

I think it's the other way around for that commenter, and God help his or her kids. Or maybe not, and we'll end up paying for little Johnny or Susie in the pen someday.

I have decided that I am not going to continue feeding his or her maw there.

She/He does not see that she/he has come into my blog--MY BLOG--on a tribute post to my mother--MY MOTHER--and essentially informed me that the way my mother raised me was disgusting and that she/he hopes my children run away from me when they have the chance. AND, she/he has the gall to act as if she/he/it does not understand why Shawn and I are not enthusiastic about whatever agenda she/he is trying to push on us.

It's like I invited him/her into my home and she/he crawled up on my coffee table to take a gigantic dump--then having the balls to look incredulous and insulted that we'd be upset by that.

Some times, the internet makes me weep.


Edited at 2008-05-08 03:38 pm (UTC)

Don't feed the stupid, stupid beast. Let it go and maybe the troll will leave. That's a jackass looking for a fight.

This is obviously a person who either
A) has no children
B) does not work with children
C) only works with children when EXTRAORDINARILY high on some pretty good drugs, which enable a person to appropriately distort reality

I have been working with children for ten years (longer if you count my life as a babysitter and a young nanny). They need discipline. They need boundaries. And yes, to a degree, they need "oppressors" to set those boundaries and enforce that discipline. Nothing frosts my cookies more than when some nutjob parent brings in a totally undisciplined child into my classroom and has the outright gall to be offended when I set boundaries and expect that child to be accountable for his or her actions. Parenthood SHOULD be a benevolent dictatorship; even the "good" little kids who are not prone to tantrums need to learn all of the lessons that your mother taught you. It takes a village and all that rot... and in my classroom, I am supreme monarch on high, just like my mother was in my house. And the kids ADORE me.

The only thing keeping me from going to your blog and eating that fucktard's face right now is that I have no wish to fuel their fire more, but I wanted you to know that your tribute is heartfelt and lovely, and that I think you are spot on in thinking that person is totally whacked.

At this point, I truly wonder if he/she is even capable of listening.

Shawn and I, before he went to work this morning think that she/he IS one of those very speshul little snow flakes raised by a parent that let them be undisciplined little terrors. It's the ONLY logical explanation I can come up with for someone believing that posting what she/he just did--and not understand why I wouldn't be happy about it.

I tried my damndest to drop the ever subtle hint of, "We're obviously not going to agree--" AKA: "Can you please shut up?" --but I guess that's what I get for going to subtle route.

I agree with you 100%. Kids need a direction, kids need someone to put their foot down and they need discipline. I ache, truly, to think what sort of kids this person will turn out into the world.

As a philosophy major (and graduating in December after 2384092834 years) I was amused how she tried to sound all smart, yet was unable to recognize the failing logic in her arguments.

Also, my folks were the same way with bratty incidents. There were three whole years that I wasn't even allowed to go to restaurants with them because I would throw fits. (From ages 3 to 6 or so.) I mean, come on, I didn't completely realize what I was doing, but my folks weren't going to put up with it, so I wasn't allowed to go with them. And now, I'm very polite. :D It works out. Children are human beings, but they are -not- mini adults. By the way, did you know that your logical judgment capabilites are not fully developed until you're 23 or so? Explains why we make mistakes, even as adults, still in our 20s I think.

I have feeling that anyone who tried to argue with he/she would come across a giant brick wall of Durhitiduur.

The fact that this person saw nothing wrong in the first place to comment and say such things on a tribute to a parent says a lot--I love how he/she doesn't seem to understand that there's anything wrong with it.

Apparently, someone's mother did not teach them subtlety and manners!

23? Oh man, I missed the train!

Oh good lord.

Someone sounds butt-hurt because *sniffoo* her Mommy was MEAN TO HER TOO and you should be on her side about how MEAN MOMMY WAS to make you own up to your own actions.

I hope to God she does not have kids because I can tell you now, they're going to be the kids that are taught to blame other people for their problems, to do what they want when they want and never take responsibility for it.

That chick's going to be the one on the news sobbing "I raised little Scumsack to be a good person, I don't know what happened!"

Personally, I'd remove her comments as being painfully stupid and then block her.

It was a terrific tribute to your mom, and knowing what a good mom you are to your furry and feathery kids, I'd say she taught you well, and you learned well.

(Yes, I do happen to believe being a parent to a pet is parenting. You can be a pet owner or a pet parent. Depends on how nuts you are. =-D)

It's almost scary how much my friends are on the same wave length as I am.

I was just discussing this with tigerphoenix in I.M's and I said to her, nearly word for word, what you did--

"That chick's going to be the one on the news sobbing "I raised little Scumsack to be a good person, I don't know what happened!"

Thanks for the compliment about the post. I'm really glad that I am not alone in my giant WTF? over this person's comments.

"[...]and then block her.

Marvelous idea old chap! I've done just that!

I can't believe someone would post comments like that on a tribute. Never mind that she's also full of shit. If children were already capable of reason, they wouldn't need to be raised. I hope she's not an actual parent.

Your tribute to your mother was lovely, by the way. ^_^

Thank you.

And I really don't know what to think of this person. I, like you, am still sputtering over the fact they posted it where they did and how they did--and not seeing anything wrong with it.

DOUBLE thank you for liking the tribute. She is an amazing woman, as I am sure any woman having to raise a kid has to be. :)

Well, I tried to leave a comment, but don't know if it went through. If it didn't, though, I summed it up with the notion that he/she was the one who would likely be bailing his/her child out of jail at 18 because the kid never learned that actions equal consequences.

And good on you, and your Mom. Her good parenting shows in you.

It will as soon as I approve it. In order to catch the spam, I have the Wordpress put the first post by an unknown poster into the moderation cue.

Thank you for commenting.

And, apparently, she's STILL AT IT. :DDD

Wow. That's some dedication right there.

Oh, I meant to say--thank you for the compliment on both my mother and myself. Scatter brained today!

Eh, it's deserved. And as to her or him or it... blargh. Not worth more than the lulz.

Well, of course she's an expert. Having had no children and speaking two languages apparently makes her some kind of a genius of child-rearing.

Wow. That is one speshul snowflake, all right.

I don't know what point she is still trying to prove; saying that one should not post anything if they don't want people to disagree?

So I'm supposed to not share with the world how much I love someone, because it's a stranger's right to come along and disagree with it? Huu?

Old argument is old--this is a person that thrives on internet drama, mistaking it for some sort of debate.

I am sort of thankful for her though. She's reminded me of another lesson my mother taught me: common sense and respect.

Very nice tribute! :) Something many of us can relate to.

When I read the part about her telling you your friends sucked I couldn't help but laugh, because I had the exact same experience. My mom had no problem in telling me that my friends sucked. Or that my beau sucked. And I was like "OMG NO WAI" and totally upset at this, cuz they were my friends! She didn't stop me from seeing them or anything, and.. well.. let's just say I learned the hard way she was right. But after I had my heart broken into itty bitty pieces and was totally alone, I discovered that I was in fact, not alone and she was very much there for me.

God, yes. My mother was ALWAYS right about friends when she called them and it ALWAYS rankled me then--until I realized the one person who never truly went away no matter what. <3

I posted, but I don't see it in the list, yet.

I got new posts from people (first time posters) to be picked up and put into the moderation cue (it doesn't show on the post until approved.) I do this because of the incredible amount of spam that happens on posts when you own a word press :p

I saw it and replied. Thank you very much!

Reading that made me envy you. You're very lucky. That Seien person sounds like a teenager her- or himself. Idiot.

It's funny, when I was a kid I didn't think that at all. I thought all sorts of awful things about my parents.

I'm appalled, now, that I did, and thankful for her everyday.

Loved your tribute to your mum, Mel. really sweet but not in a cloying, Hallmark moment sort of way.

When my eldest was in the terrible threes she pitched a complete fit in the park because we'd not taker her to play in the kiddies area. Her mum and I did pretty much as your mum did with you, let her get on with it but stayed just near enough to make sure there was no real risk.

Well, she's now about the same age as that... droid that tried lecturing you and I know which one of them comes across as the better, more rounded, saner human.

Best wishes to you all

Thanks Almagill! It's always difficult for me to find the right words to express for those I love deeply, I'm really glad it seems I've made a hit with this.